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zelda_queen ([personal profile] zelda_queen) wrote in [community profile] getting_started2017-07-01 11:52 pm

Open ID Account and LiveJournal Account

Hi! I had a question about the connection between the Open ID account used to edit community posts imported from LiveJournal and the LiveJournal account itself. Specifically, I was wondering if it's possible to continue to use that Open ID account to edit imported posts and delete the LiveJournal account the posts were imported from.

I'm a member of a community that's been imported here from LiveJournal and have periodically used my Open ID account to edit links in the old posts I made. I'm currently on the fence in regards to deleting my LiveJournal account, but I don't want to do it if it means I won't be able to edit those posts.

Than you very much!
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[personal profile] ckd 2017-07-02 08:15 am (UTC)(link)
I believe that if you "claim" the LJ OpenID with your DW account, that will make the posts and comments editable by your DW account.

You do have to do it while you can still log in to your LJ account though.

https://www.dreamwidth.org/support/faqbrowse?faqid=84
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[personal profile] stardreamed 2017-07-04 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
How soon after we claim our LJ Open ID can we delete our LJ account? I deleted mine again about 20 minutes after I clicked the link in my confirmation e-mail. I was assuming that it wouldn't matter anymore because everything that was left to happen needs to happen on Dreamwidth itself, but now I'm a little nervous. LOL.
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[personal profile] ckd 2017-07-04 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
You should be fine; AIUI you just need to have the account long enough for DW to get the OpenID verification from LJ. Once you've received the confirmation email and clicked the link, you should we well past that point.
stardreamed: Kanan: The Last Padawan (CalebDume)

[personal profile] stardreamed 2017-07-04 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you! :)
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[personal profile] dancing_serpent 2017-07-02 08:16 am (UTC)(link)
You're right, when you delete your LJ you won't be able to log in to you OpenID account any more, and so wouldn't be able to edit those posts.

I believe that claiming your OpenID account with your Dreamwidth account would be a way to still allow you to edit, but I can't say for sure. I made the mistake of deleting my LJ before claiming OpenIDs was a thing, so those posts and comments are lost to me.
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[personal profile] tornir 2017-07-02 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
Since I assume you still have access to the email(s) associated with the old LJ/OpenID accounts, would it be possible to create a new LJ and use a rename token to get your old name back*, then use that to log in here via open ID and initiate the claim process?


*assuming no-one else has grabbed it.

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[personal profile] dancing_serpent 2017-07-02 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, that might be possible. It would involve agreeing to the new TOS and giving LJ money, though, and I was kinda glad I already left back in 2009. So I'm kinda reluctant. *g*
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[personal profile] tornir 2017-07-02 01:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I get the impression that LJ aren't actually the bad guy in this. Rumour has it that Russian authorities made them move the servers and impose the TOS because they didn't like the content their citizens were posting on there, and wanted to do something about that.
As to personally agreeing to the TOS, it's merely a formality. You won't (I assume) be posting any content on there, just using the account to claim OpenID posts on the DW servers, which are beyond the reach of LJ and the Russian authorities no matter what you agree to.
stardreamed: Kanan: The Last Padawan (CalebDume)

[personal profile] stardreamed 2017-07-04 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
What bothers me is that this new User Agreement is provided in Russian, with a translation provided in English that is “not a legally binding document. The original User Agreement, which is valid, is located at the following address: http://www.livejournal.com/legal/tos-ru.bml” which, does not help unless you speak Russian and understand Russian legalese.

How they expect one to be able to consent to an agreement one cannot read is beyond me. :(

(Essentially, Russia is going to do whatever it wants with our data and that's it, is what I gather. The so-called agreement is for show.)

I did a quick search and found somebody wrote an easy work around so you can avoid personally agreeing to the TOS. (Not that it really changes anything... Maybe make you feel a little better.) It's a Chrome Extension that is able to bypass the pop-up because the code is enoforced client-side, not server-side, so it's easily deactivated in your browser. https://blog.kamens.us/2017/04/10/how-to-delete-your-livejournal-account/ As written, it gets you to the account status page so you can delete your account. It is easy enough to modify if you also need to claim your OpenID first or transfer your account.
Edited (typo) 2017-07-04 00:55 (UTC)