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Joseph Dunphy ([personal profile] joseph_dunphy) wrote in [community profile] getting_started2010-10-05 12:23 am

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I've tried posting this as a support ticket, but nobody seems to be answering those, so I'll try here. I've set the title of my new blog to be "Imaginary Footlights", or at least I thought I did, but when I look at the top of the screen on my blog

http://joseph-dunphy.dreamwidth.org/

instead of seeing the title, I see "joseph-dunphy | recent entries", which to my eye looks more than a little sloppy. Obviously, your system does allow one to have the title of one's blog appear there, as it should, as one can see by looking at a few of the other user's blogs, like this one

http://mikeweaver.dreamwidth.org/

but I can't see how he did that. How does one do that?
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[personal profile] ninetydegrees 2010-10-07 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the links and the explanations. I see your point but I have to say my experience hasn't shown me that it was mostly done well (Edit: no matter what sort of site it was BTW.)
Edited 2010-10-07 16:06 (UTC)
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[personal profile] matgb 2010-10-07 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
What's that silly aphorism? 99% of stuff on the internet is crap?

It's mostly done badly, but most things are mostly done badly by most people that do them. In our case, we actually encourage people to do it badly as we don't put any encouragement into thinking about the impact of it overall.

But most news websites these days will, having studied and paid a lot to make sure they get all the clickthroughs they can, have their titles set to display "NEws Item Title | News Section | Sitename", and they do that for a reason. The exceptions tend to be either lower down the market not thought through sites, and the really big brands; the BBC deliberately puts "BBC News" first in all its titles, as they know that that's such a trusted brand it'll increase clickthroughs.

(and if I was organised enough I would be making a serious living getting people to do this right, I'm a flake, and am terrible at being self employed, so I don't, but I do follow the industry discussions on it when I can, it really interests me, my coding isn't up to much, my visual design skills are non-existent, got to be good at something, right?)
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[personal profile] ninetydegrees 2010-10-07 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
To me, your rename is slightly confusing, but at least I know all about it.

I've made a suggestion about that actually. ^_^
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[personal profile] baggyeyes 2010-10-07 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I do remember - now - back when I was making the old fashioned html pages. The information in between the title tags were very important, especially if the site was for an organization. I had to put the org's name, then the page title in so the user and the search engines would find them easily.

The first thing search engines hit will be the title of the journal, and if the journal is for an organization, I can see why it is very important that a user would want fine-tuned control over that. Ditto for authors trying to establish an online presence for themselves or for a specific book. Maybe they won't turn to a Live Journal or a Dreamwidth for such a thing, but it should be made an option for those that do.
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[personal profile] matgb 2010-10-08 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly, except...

I had to put the org's name, then the page title in so the user and the search engines would find them easily.

These days it's advised best practice to put the page title first, then org name, for most circumstances. There are exceptions, but it's to do with the way people respond to search results pages, they tend to scan and normally go to the next line after glancing at the first three words.

Ergo, title first, as that should be what they're actually looking for.

And there are a large chunk of authors that use LJ as their main or only presence, and there'll be a few politicians using DW when some of the other features we've planned are live (and not just lowend politicians like me and SB, hopefully).
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[personal profile] raine 2010-10-10 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
RE: accessibility - I did wonder what you meant by that. Thanks again for the clarification.

Hope your repair to your tooth wasn't too expensive or painful!

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